Curse

Avalri · Jun 19, 2008, 09:37 PM // 21:37

Hey Peeps!

My deepest apologies if this has been covered before. >_< I've been googling and searching for a little while, but sometimes I miss things.

Anyways, my darlin's, I've been hunting to see if you can combine a Mesmer's Illusionary Weaponry with some of the Rit's non-elite (obviously) weaponry skills. (Since both spellcasters have builds known to be able to meelee with. (Because I love meelee enchanters... which makes IW Mesmers, Weaponry Rits, and Dervishes awesome in my mind.))

See, I'm figuring it works like this...

16 IW= 42dmg
16 SS= 37 dmg

Therefore, for the most base dmg with one spell, Id want to be a mesmer primary, with 16 in illusion attribute. And then I would use some rit skills, at 12 of their attribute(s), to up the attack dmg even more and for healing. Potentially. But if I need healing or extra attack spells up, then I'd want Rit Primary... Any input?

But there is the problem, one that I've had trouble with. How the heck would I keep my toon alive without using a 55 build or a terra tank build? (What I've seen so far relies heavily on a sin or war second to stay alive, or another elite, which I couldn't use due to IW/SS.) Okay okay, it might not be possible, but I wanted to ask.

Thanks for your time and help!

mistokibbles · Jun 19, 2008, 10:03 PM // 22:03

Weapon of aggression but it gets too energy intensive. You'd be better off going /w for flurry or /d for armor of sanctity/conviction and whirling charge

Joshthor · Jun 19, 2008, 10:03 PM // 22:03

well i was looking around and i found out they dont work. unfortunately. you never hit your target with IW so weapon spells like splinter weapon dont work.

Avalri · Jun 19, 2008, 10:07 PM // 22:07

Ah. Bummer. I guess I should have thought of that, since it sounds like Rits do real meelee, and mesmers deal illusionary meelee dmg.

Thanks a ton!

zelgadissan · Jun 19, 2008, 10:10 PM // 22:10

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Originally Posted by Avalri

But there is the problem, one that I've had trouble with. How the heck would I keep my toon alive without using a 55 build or a terra tank build?

You have just answered your own question by explaining that Illusionary Weaponry pretty much sucks.

If you're deadset on running [Illusionary Weaponry] as a Me/Rt (and get ready for flames here BTW if you do), your best bet would be to use a weapon spell for IAS such as [Weapon of Aggression]. Another legitimate skill option would be [Vital Weapon] to increase your survivability. Also don't forget you usually need a cover enchant of some sort to upkeep IW because if it's pulled, you stand there and die for 25 seconds before it recharges.

Also so it's been said, [Spirit's Strength] is WAY better because it adds damage to your actual attack, meaning whatever damage you actually do gets +37 armor ignoring damage added at 16 Spawning.

One last note that I haven't tested but I'm sure is true:

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Originally Posted by Avalri

And then I would use some rit skills, at 12 of their attribute(s), to up the attack dmg even more

Since your IW attack doesn't actually "hit" I highly doubt any +damage weapon spell adds anything to your attack. Somebody can correct me on that if I'm wrong.

EDIT: LOL people beat me when I make really long responses.

Avalri · Jun 19, 2008, 10:25 PM // 22:25

Wow, thank you for all the information and quick replies. Haha, I guess IW is pretty useless. I just have a thing for mesmers. But maybe Rit will become my new favorite class.

Anyway, thanks so much again, everyone!

zelgadissan · Jun 19, 2008, 10:28 PM // 22:28

You're not the only one who enjoys Mesmers and Ritualists...

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Avalri · Jun 19, 2008, 10:32 PM // 22:32

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Originally Posted by zelgadissan

You're not the only one who enjoys Mesmers and Ritualists...

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Haha I noticed. Nice to know my obsession isn't too far fetched then. Truly though, thank you for you help.

itsvictor · Jun 19, 2008, 10:33 PM // 22:33

I'm going to have to direct you to this article about meleecasters from pvxwiki...

http://www.pvxwiki.com/wiki/User:The...ontlining_Monk

It is quite the read and pretty much says what I have to say about IW mesmers except for playing it as a gimmick when you're bored to death. Failed concepts fail. I say go with a dervish to be honest...

Edit:Avoiding double post and seeing that you did actually read what I first posted, you're going to rely heavily on monks(yes you will be a constant THORN up the @$$ since you need continual prot and healing to minimize the collateral damage you do by running a bad gimmick), drop the superior and go with a minor, get survivors or the (armor+enchanted) insignia, always wear a shield and spec going Me/W to even get a decent amount of armor. Bad builds are bad I am sorry to have to be the one that crushes the dream.

Ministry Of Peace · Jun 20, 2008, 05:01 AM // 05:01

SS + Aura of holy might + high damage scythe attacks + great dwarven weapon from another player + go for the eyes spam from another player = pwnage